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Takonic · Mar 03, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03

Ok my question is this, Im wondering If I use Signet of illusions with a skill...Say I SoI'ed Backfire, would the skill be accounted for Illusion instead of Domination? and trigger my 20% Illusion HSR? ....or would I need a 20% HSR on Domination to HSR on backfire ...

P.S im just using backfire as an example

ALICE WInterLand · Mar 03, 2008, 12:29 AM // 00:29

ur backfire will be using ur Illsuion attribute.say ur illsuion attribute is 16.ur backfire's spell will be at 16...if ur illsuion line is 10...ur backfire will be at 10 attribute as well.

Takonic · Mar 03, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

yes, but would this trigger the 20% illusion mods I have on or ?

Dodo The Extinct · Mar 03, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44

I believe so. Backfire is domination and using SoL with it makes it use the Illusion attribute, thus making it an illusion spell.

Try looking for a concrete answer on wiki.

Kale Ironfist · Mar 03, 2008, 01:45 AM // 01:45

SoI does not change the fact that Backfire is a Domination skill. If you used Backfire under SoI, it won't be affected by 20% HCT/HSR mods.

Captain Miken · Mar 03, 2008, 01:50 AM // 01:50

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Originally Posted by Kale Ironfist

SoI does not change the fact that Backfire is a Domination skill. If you used Backfire under SoI, it won't be affected by 20% HCT/HSR mods.

I've long pondered the same thing as the OP and was just about to go check it out - do you have any evidence of this? Or should I go and test it, and document my tests for Guru use?

Redfeather1975 · Mar 03, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

I know that Illusion +1 mods don't work on non-illusion skills used under SOI, so I'm gonna take a risk and say neither would HSR nor HCT mods.
I could be wrong, but it would make sense those two mods would also not work.
It would mean that SOI's code only augments the attributes rather than switching them.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 04, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

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It would mean that SOI's code only augments the attributes rather than switching them.

it does not me and my guildies tested it

Terra Xin · Mar 04, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by Captain Miken

I've long pondered the same thing as the OP and was just about to go check it out - do you have any evidence of this? Or should I go and test it, and document my tests for Guru use?

If it did, then it shouldn't be functioning that way. Kale Ironfist is right, when you use its spell, its only uses the illusion magic's attribute points, it does not become an illusion magic spell. The same thing applies to the fact that mantra of persistence wont affect hexes that aren't in illusion magic, but cast under SoI.

Miss Puddles · Mar 05, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32

a 20% mod would have to be for the domination attribute, even though you would (hopefully) be using it at 16 illusion.
if that makes sense.

Alicendre · Mar 05, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56

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Originally Posted by Terra Xin

If it did, then it shouldn't be functioning that way. Kale Ironfist is right, when you use its spell, its only uses the illusion magic's attribute points, it does not become an illusion magic spell. The same thing applies to the fact that mantra of persistence wont affect hexes that aren't in illusion magic, but cast under SoI.

I wanted to try this so I casted 21 spells with SoI and a wand/focus set, both having a 20% HCT with Illusion bonus. I had no point in fast casting and all skills had a 3-seconds cast. (Diversion, Energy Tap and Spirit Shackles)
I didn't noticed quicker casting, even though I didn't record it.

So I believe Kale Ironfist is right.

System_Crush · Mar 06, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

While on the subject what about SoI and [skill=text]Mantra of Persistence[/skill]? Will that trigger?

viens87 · Mar 06, 2008, 10:59 AM // 10:59

HSR 20/20 need for staff , and casting is in ur fastcasting atributes ..

domination - hsr dom
ilusion - hsr ilu
.....

i use 20nrg staff , + HSR20 on skills + 30hp staff ..

for example http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Mindclouder <--- best staf for SoL !

GL

Terra Xin · Mar 06, 2008, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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Originally Posted by System_Crush

While on the subject what about SoI and [skill=text]Mantra of Persistence[/skill]? Will that trigger?

If the hex used is under the Illusion Magic attribute, it will. SoI does not convert spells into Illusion Magic, it only uses the spells at Illusion Magic's attribute. So if you use a non-Illusion Magic hex with SoI, it will not last longer.